This week, I interviewed the Director of Communications at
Barrick Gold of North America, Lou Schack.
Lou has worked in communications for over twenty years. He started his career as a journalist in Ely,
NV and moved to Reno, NV after two years to continue working as a journalist for
the Reno Gazette Journal. Lou was recruited out of Reno in the late 90’s to
come to Elko and join the mining industry.
Barrick Gold of North America is a regional business unit of
Barrick Gold Corporation. Barrick Gold Corporation is a global company with
twenty-seven operating mine sites on four continents. The North American
Communications Department recently went through a major reorganization. I
wanted to ask Lou about concepts from this week’s reading and then also see if
the reorganization is aligned or not with some of these concepts.
Question 1 – In
recent years, Barrick has grown quite a bit as a company and now operates in four
continents with a corporate headquarters in Toronto. How has growth impacted
corporate communications?
“We deal
with many different languages, time zones, and have different ideas about what
is appropriate to say publically and what isn’t. For example, in the Dominican Republic
you might need to come out with a fairly aggressive statement during a crisis
or controversial situation. You wouldn’t necessarily do this in other markets,
but in the Dominican Republic this is the only way to get the media to pay
attention and so this is how we have to operate. When you have a few operations and a few
thousand employees, it’s much simpler to do business than with twenty-seven mines
spread across the world. A lot of us who
have worked for smaller companies yearn for those days to return, but like most
businesses if the company isn’t growing then you won’t last very long.”
Question 2 – With
all the growth, it might be difficult to keep the CEO and senior leaders involved
in communications. In every Barrick
publication there is a letter from the CEO or regional president, but do you
think senior leaders are as involved as much as they should be (Argenti, Howell
& Beck, 2005)?
“No, the CEO is not. More involvement from senior leaders would
create closer ties with the workforce and would communicate a business strategy
to employees; it provides direction.”
Question 2a – Do
you think this is because we focus too much on investor communications? What
are the positive or negative consequences?
“Yes, there is too much focus on investors relative to other
types of communications. We need to have a focus on investors, but that cannot
be the main focus of our communications strategy. Our heavy focus on investor
communications is having a negative impact because others in the corporate
office who want to have more of a focus on employees and other stakeholder
communications are looking for other jobs because they disagree with the
overall strategy.”
Question 3 – If
it is important to have the CEO and senior leadership involved in business
communications, should they also be more involved in social and political
issues? Our communications and community relations departments are heavily
involved with social and political issues, but should we try to get senior
leaders more involved (Argenti et al, 2005)?
“We can improve slightly in this area, but part of our
problem is that a lot of the people in these roles are expats (they’re mainly Canadians)
and so it is difficult to involve them in political issues. For example, most
of them can’t vote. Also, because of the size and diversity of the company, we
have to be careful with authorizing people to get involved with these
issues. Generally, our management and
employees are quite involved in social issues at the local level, and to the
extent that it’s appropriate we’re involved in a few select social issues at a
regional level. In the region, we’re primarily involved with education, youth development,
and engagement with Western Shoshone Tribes.”
Question 4 –
Shifting to stakeholder communications, stakeholders have different and often
higher expectations for companies operating in their backyards. Do you think stakeholders in northeastern
Nevada have unrealistically high expectations for mining companies (Bonini,
Mendonca, & Oppenheim, 2006)?
“Yes, that’s often the case because we’ve been here a long
time and Newmont (Barrick’s main competitor) has been here a long time too, and
we’ve been generous over the years and have built up some dependency over time
causing people to have unrealistically high expectations about what Barrick
should and shouldn’t fund.”
Question 5 - One
suggested method for keeping informed of social issues is to partner with
non-governmental organizations (NGOs) (Bonini et al, 2006). Barrick recently announced a partnership with
the Danish Institute for Human Rights. How
do you think this will help Barrick’s reputation and knowledge or involvement
in social and political issues? Will it give us any strategic advantage?
“Those sorts of alliances with NGO groups are valuable to
the extent that they support financing for large projects overseas. There are a
lot of standards applied to the financing arrangements for large projects
abroad and alliances with NGOs, such as the Danish institute for Human Rights,
are viewed as positive enhancements to our corporate presence in other
countries.”
Question 6 - Another
suggested method for staying in touch with social and political issues is to
collaborate with other companies in the industry. The International Council on Mining and
Metals (ICMM), which Barrick is a member of, was mentioned by Bonini et al
(2006) as an example. However, the Nevada Mining Association (NvMA) is a better
local example. How has NvMA helped the industry stay aware of social and
political issues?
“Since we’re the largest member of the association, this
relationship usually involves us helping the association stay informed. We’re
usually better informed about market trends, stakeholder concerns, and other
issues but we’re often better off working through NvMA so that we’re presenting
a unified front for the industry. Because we’re the largest member (membership
is based on mineral ounce production) we often have to restrain our desire to
be out in front on some issues. Over time, I think we’re coming to the
conclusion that maybe we do need to be out in front and not always following
NvMA because of our status as the largest member and largest business entity in
the industry. NvMA and associations can be difficult because we have to try to
agree with what others in the industry are doing even when we don’t necessarily
agree with it. “
Question 7 -
Argenti & Beck (2005) argue that communications need to be integrated into
all parts of the business and, “the communication function must ensure that
communications emanating from the business units are aligned with and support
the company’s overall strategy” (p.88). Would you agree with this statement?
“Yes, I would agree with that statement and no, this is not
present at Barrick. We have conflicting and misguided communications between
the regions and the corporate office and the root of the problem is a lack of
leadership in the function at a corporate level and a lack of coordination
between the members of that function. What communications strategy does exist is
thin and not well articulated and not well delivered internally. There is a very low frequency of
communications efforts between the corporate office and the broader employee
population.”
Question 8 - Eisenberg
(1984) discussed the importance of ambiguous communication and the importance
of ambiguity in maintaining flexibility and strategic position. Barrick’s
vision is, “To be the world’s best gold company by finding, acquiring,
developing and producing quality reserves in a safe, profitable and socially
responsible manner” (http://www.barrick.com).
With the recent acquisition of a copper company, should we have been a
little more ambiguous in communicating our goals?
“Ambiguity does give flexibility that you don’t have when
you’re specific. Barrack has paid a price for diversifying and not admitting as
much to the market and stakeholders. We haven’t changed our vision, but we’re
at the point where we’ve established a copper region within the company next to
our three operating gold regions. I
don’t think most people understand what we’re trying to do because you have a
mine in Zambia, Saudi Arabia and Chile that make up the copper division within
the company and managing those three together with that kind of geography
doesn’t make sense. There is a value in ambiguity as long as you maintain it
for legitimate business purposes rather than leaving yourself room to be wishy
washy. In communications, you want to be
as precise as you can be while offering a little bit of flexibility depending
on the topic.”
Question 9 - What
guidance is in place at Barrick and how to you know when you need clear or
ambiguous communication?
“There isn’t any strategy officially; it’s generally left to
the expertise and wisdom of the few communications professionals in the
company. We’re very careful with how the primary messaging is worded to the
point that it keeps us from doing a lot of things that we should do. I cannot
think of any guidelines or policy related to appropriate ambiguity in messaging;
it’s subjective and depends on topic and time.
It helps to have experienced people in the communications function.”
As I mentioned before, the company went through a major
reorganization in the communications department as well as a few other
functions. Lou and I are both struggling with the change and struggling to
understand what benefit the change will provide. There is some room for
improvement and I appreciate Lou’s honest responses.
References
Argenti, P., Howell, R., & Beck, K. (2005). The
strategic communication imperative, MIT
Sloan Management Review, 46(3),
88-89. Bonini, S., Mendonca, L., & Oppenheim, H. (2006). When social issues become strategic, The McKinsey Quarterly, 2, 19-31.
Eisenberg, E. (1994). Ambiguity as strategy in organizational communication, Communication Monographs, 51, 227-242.
http://www.barrick.com
Nicely done and I liked the way you weaved all of the writing into the questions. Your report also gives us a look at the inner-workings of mining, Nevada's second biggest industry behind gaming.
ReplyDeleteI was surprised that your CEO is not as involved in the communications aspect of operations. It seems every few years, there is a referendum to get mining to pay more in taxes, how does that affect your strategy? You sort of touched on that in question 4 but I imagine you have to get out in front of that issue every time it pops up?
Hi John,
DeleteThe taxes issue comes up before every state legislative session and it will surface again in January/Febuary. Lou Schack (who I interviewed) deals with it a lot and directs our communications activites in Nevada. The CEO really doesn't take the time (and probably doesn't have the time) to learn Nevada government so we have to handle all communications. The bad thing with this, is that one of the arguments against Barrick is that we take all of the money back to Canada since we're a Canadian based corporation and not having the CEO involved can give off the perception that he's sitting on a gold throne in Toronto. It's a challenge that we're continuing to try to deal with.
Yeah, I could see that, working in Las Vegas media. LOL. These responses are all off the record ;)
DeleteJ
Melanie,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the post and interview. I could learn a lot from someone
experience in communication with such depth. It was really interesting
to hear his story about how he dealt with communication in adverse and
diverse situations. Adapting to each region, sector, and service to
their needs and culture seemed to be very important. Also, it was
captivating to hear the role of senior leaders. Usually, the CEO is
the main figure most people look to for company message and direction,
but I could see that senior leaders have to support the CEO constantly
for the CEO to be effective. Most captivating was the last comment
about leaving it to a few communication professionals. The importance
of experienced professionals rather than having a rule for strategic
communication seems to be very new. I could see how fewer people could
manage communication better and more effectively compared to a large
communication group.